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    The transition to “Electronic budget” is a requirement of the time and international standards. According to the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation Siluanova A. G. the creation of an “Electronic Budget” will provide “an opportunity to strengthen the accountability of public authorities to society, and therefore increase transparency and efficiency in the use of budget funds.”

    Modern Russia is experiencing one of the most active stages in the development of the information society, the construction of an electronic state, and an electronic government.

    Issues of informatization have already affected the sphere of public finance management. Until 2015, the electronic budget system will unite all ministries and departments of the Russian Federation and all organizations included in their structure. The President of the Russian Federation, in the Budget Address for 2012 - 2014, set the task for the Government of the Russian Federation on the need to approve the creation and development of an integrated information system for public finance management “Electronic Budget”, the electronic document of which can be seen on the official website of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation - http//www. minfin.ru.

    Speaking about the relevance of the topic, it should be noted that the concept of creating and developing a state integrated information system for managing public finances “Electronic Budget” was approved by Order of the Government of the Russian Federation dated July 20, 2011 No. 1275-r. The concept was developed in accordance with the provisions of the Russian Government Program for increasing the efficiency of budget expenditures for the period until 2012, approved by Order of the Russian Government dated June 30, 2010 No. 1101-r. The concept for the creation and development of the “Electronic Budget” system provides for a five-year implementation period - until 2015.

    According to Pertsova L.V.“Electronic budget” is intended to ensure openness, transparency and accountability of the activities of state authorities and local governments, improve the quality of financial management of organizations in the public administration sector and create conditions for the most effective use of budget funds and assets of public legal entities through the formation of a single information space , the use of information and telecommunication technologies in the field of public finance management - which is the main goal of the creation and development of the “Electronic Budget”.

    The implementation of an electronic budget system should achieve three interrelated goals.

    Firstly, make open not only the result of financial and economic activities, but also the decision-making process itself. Not only open documents - reporting data, projects, forecasts, but also let citizens understand the logic of decision-making.

    Second goal– link financial information with the final results of government activities and make it accessible to a specific user.

    Third goal– transition from local information systems of each institution to the use of so-called cloud technologies, which create a unified system for all participants in the budget process according to uniform rules. “We now have a personal computer on every desk in a budget institution, which, in fact, closes the entire network and does not allow users to participate in a single space that can be created using cloud technologies. More than 20,000 federal agencies spend billions of dollars to purchase, develop, and annually maintain accounting software.

    So what are the advantages and disadvantages of creating an “Electronic Budget”? The advantages include the following:

    • the creation of an “Electronic Budget” will help to unify and simplify the preparation and presentation of regulated reporting, thereby eliminating the need for repeated manual entry of information;
    • the creation of an “Electronic Budget” will facilitate the transition to legally significant document flow in the field of public finance management;
    • The procedure for processing documents and monitoring the execution of orders will be automated, thereby creating a centralized, modern repository of normative and other legal acts in the field of budget legal relations.
    • saving money on the purchase and support of software for design and budget execution;
    • speeding up the passage of documents by organizing paperless document flow using digital signatures between the institution and its main manager or financial authority;
    • the ability to work on the design and execution of the budget together with its subordinate institutions in a single database;
    • the ability to analyze the progress of design and budget execution with any degree of detail online;
    • control over the activities of the main managers of budget funds and state (municipal) institutions online;
    • the ability to control the planning processes of budget execution by the population;

    The disadvantage of the system, or more precisely, the problem of implementing the “Electronic Budget” system, is that:

    • lack of necessary technical equipment. It is difficult to imagine the full integration of various organizations within the framework of building an electronic budget if some of them operate on modern equipment and modern software products, while the other part uses outdated equipment and programs of the last century.
    • The second problem, referring to an interview with Dmitry Vakhrushev, a member of the expert group under the Commission for public discussion of issues of the creation and development of information technologies in the field of public finance management of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, can be said to be the lack of software. As Dmitry Vakhrushev himself states: “The transition to new software is always difficult for specialists in institutions. I very often encountered, when replacing one software product with another, a simple problem when an accountant cannot find the button that he pressed before... it is necessary to competently organize staff training at the implementation stage and create a high-quality support system.”
    • The third problem is the following - each subject of the Russian Federation lives and develops in its own way, different from all others, and has its own specifics. If we apply the same methodology to each region, it is unlikely to yield results. It is very important that the implemented system is truly in demand locally, and most importantly, that it works. In order for the regions to be interested in the “Electronic Budget”, it must solve the management problems of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation, and also take into account the specifics of each region. The system needs to be adapted to the needs of end users, in this case, to the needs of public legal entities (subjects of the Russian Federation and municipalities). Such adaptation can be carried out much more effectively if the regional segment of the “Electronic Budget” is created by regional developers.
    • The fourth problem is the unwillingness of Russian software developers to get involved in the creation of components of the “Electronic Budget” system due to their narrow specialization, i.e., when one company deals only with government procurement, another - only with budget accounting or reporting, and a third - only with treasury accounting. In this regard, in order to solve problems within the framework of the “Electronic Budget” concept, the developer must be competent in all matters, including linking all systems (public procurement, budget accounting and control) into one.

    Thus, the creation of an “Electronic Budget” will create both favorable conditions for the development of a unified methodology for designing and executing the budget, as well as some “costs”.

    Common mistakes when connecting to GIIS

    « Electronic budget»

    If you encounter problems connecting to the GIIS “Electronic Budget”, you need to check the settings:

    1. Login to your personal account using the link http://lk. budget. gov. ru/ udu- webcenter;

    2. check the “Continent TLSVPNClient” settings.

    Open the settings configurator (Start > All Programs > Security Code > Client > Settings Continent TLS Client), “Port” value must be specified 8080 , "Address" -lk. The “Use external proxy server” checkbox should not be there, if the organization does not use an external proxy, “Require RFC 5746 support” can be removed.

    After adding the TLS Continent certificate, the "Certificate" field should indicate "<»;

    Figure 1. Service setup

    3. check your browser settings.

    Using the MozillaFireFox browser as an example, launch the browser, open the connection parameters (Main menu of the browser “Tools”> “Settings”> “Advanced” tab> “Network” tab> “Configure” button). Select “Manual configuration of proxy service” in the “HTTP” field proxy" specify the value 127.0.0.1, "Port" - 8080. Check the box "Use this proxy server for all protocols."

    The "Do not use proxy for" field should not be set to 127.0.0.1.

    Figure 2. Connection parameters

    Typical errors when connecting to GIIS

    « Electronic budget»

    Solution options: 1) Disable the antivirus. If the problem is solved, change the antivirus settings 2) Check the TLS and browser settings.

    2. 403 Access denied. The server certificate differs from the one specified in the settings. The length of the certificates varies.

    Solution: Check the certificate specified in the TLS settings by the name in the line. Should be "<».

    3. The certificate selection window does not appear.

    Solution: Uncheck “Require RFC 5746 support” if checked. Otherwise, check the other settings.

    4. 403 Access denied. The root certificate was not found.

    Solution: Reinstall the Federal Treasury CA certificate (if it has already been installed).

    For WindowsXP:

    Start>Run>mmc>console>add or remove snap-in>add “certificates” (Fig. 3)>my account>Done>OK>expand the list>open the line “trusted root authorities” - “certificates”>in an empty area of ​​the window with certificates, right-click and select (Fig. 4)>all tasks>import>

    Figure 3

    Figure 4

    For Windows 7:

    Start>Run>mmc>file>add or remove snap-in>add snap-in “certificates” (Fig. 5)>add>my account>Finish>OK>expand the contents and go to the line “trusted root authorities” - “certificates” ( Fig. 6)>in an empty area of ​​the window with certificates, right-click and select>all tasks>import>select the desired certificate and install.

    Figure 5

    Another federal hemorrhoids crept up as planned, and as always... The basis will be taken from the instructions sent by email (with the request “incognito”), supplemented by my lyrics and notes. Because everything worked for us. By analogy with procurement in ⇒ Cloud I threw in everything you might need.

    Lyrics and additions are also important, read from cover to cover.

    Introductory . We have everything configured to work through Internet Explorer version 11 and have KES 10 antivirus installed. After the ransomware epidemic, we had to disable Firewall and now we work through Windows Firewall. No settings were made in the “wall of fire”; EB-2012 works without problems. But I’ll show you the settings for KES 10 later. Internet Explorer 11 can be downloaded from ⇒ Yandex.

    So, let's go...


    Point No. 1 . Remove all versions of Jinn-Client and Continent TLS (if previously installed). Reboot.

    Lyrics. If you don’t have any “homemade” departmental software, I also recommend running the registry utility CCleaner. And clean until it says “No errors.” If VirtualBox is installed, only errors from it will remain. Reboot.

    Point No. 2 . Remove Extended Container (if it was installed before). Reboot.

    Lyrics. I didn’t figure out how to remove it, it remained in the system - it didn’t affect the final result. As a last resort, you can simply put a fresh one on top. This is where we may need the Microsoft Visual C++ libraries (which I put in a separate folder).

    Information. This time our Treasury remained silent, and I looked for all the software myself and installed it according to the instructions from the forums. Ultimately, we have Extended Container not from the “official” distribution, but version 1.0.2.2 (folder "eXtendedContainer" in the Cloud).

    Point No. 3 . Install the Mozilla Firefox 63.0.1 (32-bit) browser, you can update it over the old version.

    Lyrics. I completed the step, but it didn’t work, but configured via Firefox SUFD flew off. The result was extra hemorrhoids. Internet Explorer 11- our everything! There's another problem here. Firefox and Chrome are constantly updated, but the final security requirements have not been formed... and extensions crash and are disabled... Firefox ESR is also going through a stage of global changes... In short, it’s better not to touch it.

    Point No. 4 . Install CRL for GOST-2012 (from the admin in Trusted root in Local computer). You can download the latest ones from crl.roskazna.ru.

    For information. Different Electronic Budget certificates indicate different paths: crl.roskazna.ru and crl.roskazna.ru/crl/. If suddenly the list turns out to be expired, you can try from a different address. Suddenly it will leak.

    Lyrics. This was not needed, because we had already done all this crap with an unsuccessful attempt to install Continent-AP 3.7.7.651 (the computer was built on server hardware). I don’t know about the others, but we rolled back to Continent-AP 3.6.90.4 and continue to work without problems (Continents ⇒). We are waiting for the normal version of Continent-AP 4.0.

    But problems arose with GOST-2001 in the “Electronic Budget”. And this point will be useful both for general development and for solving the problem... How to find out where to get the CRL (aka “Certificate Revocation List”)?

    Click twice in Explorer on the problematic certificate. Go to the "Composition" tab and select the line "Revocation List Distribution Points (CRL)". We get addresses... Launch any Internet browser and enter the URL. If “empty” at all addresses, well, stillborn... :(

    What we downloaded needs to be forced into the system. And so every time the list loses its relevance... In the same Explorer, double-click on the downloaded file and select "Install...":

    And the most interesting thing is that the download paths are registered in TLS 2.0, but this c[puppy’s mother] writes that there is nothing at the specified address.

    And for information: It turns out that certificates and private key containers have independent lifetimes from each other. Those. the certificate may be current, but it is no longer possible to sign the document...

    Point No. 5 . We install the user’s personal certificate through CryptoPro.

    Point No. 6 . Go to CryptoPro and check the “Do not check the server certificate for revocation” and “Do not check the purpose of your own certificate” checkboxes on the “TLS Settings” tab.

    Point No. 7 . Install Continent TLS Client 2.0.1440. Reboot.

    Lyrics. During the installation process, an access error may occur... We have already gone through this before. You need to unlock the registry branch (right during the installation process), change the rights to change it. By default, the owner of the branch is “system”, and the software is installed on behalf of the user. Since on computers of this level users must be in “Administrators” (tested by practice), we give access accordingly:

    If the question arises, “What is shown in the picture above?”... It’s better not to get involved yourself, but to ask a person who knows what the “Windows System Registry” is and how to work with it.

    Point No. 8 . We configure the Continent TLS (see the manual on the website roskazna.ru, section "GIS-Electronic Budget").

    • lk2012.budget.gov.ru
    • lk.budget.gov.ru

    TLS settings:

    Point No. 9 . Registering Continent TLS.

    • Win+R and type %PUBLIC%\\ContinentTLSClient\\
    • Find the PublicConfig.json file
    • Open with Notepad for editing
    • In the SerialNumber parameter, insert the value " in quotes test-50000"
    • Restart TLS Continent.
    Lyrics. You can do it easier, there is no sedition in this - register officially. They won't ask for money for this.

    Point No. 10 . Uninstall the Extended Container program through "Programs and Features" in the Control Panel. Reboot.

    Lyrics. I did not complete this step. I don’t understand why it should be removed; it doesn’t interfere at all.

    Point No. 11 . Install Jinn Client 1.0.3050 (serial number required). Reboot.

    Lyrics. The Treasury issued us version 1.0.1130.0, this did not affect the performance in any way. We take the serial number from the old version of the previously issued distribution.

    Point No. 12 . Install Extended Container from the distribution with Jinn Client (a separate serial number is required).

    Lyrics. I have no idea what serial number we are talking about. It didn't exist before. Perhaps this means the number issued in the latest distribution. Unlike Jinn, there are no restrictions on the number of installations. I installed the new Extended (version 1.0.2.2) earlier in an attempt to solve the problem on my own.

    Point No. 13 . Let's go to C:\Program Files\Secure Code\CSP\ and find the file csp_uninstal.exe. We launch it and remove the crypto provider from the Security Code. Reboot.

    Point No. 14 . Let's go Install JinnSignExtensionProvider(for interaction with Chrome and Firefox browsers).

    Lyrics. I also missed this point, because we have Internet Explorer 11. I didn’t try it on Chrome, but Firefox didn’t work.

    Point No. 15 . Install CadesPlugin (aka CryptoPro EDS Browser Plug-in).

    Lyrics. You can download ⇒. Download the latest version. We register the site "http://lk2012.budget.gov.ru" in the plugin settings:


    Point No. 16 . Setting up browsers:
    • Internet Explorer: add to Trusted Sites - http://lk2012.budget.gov.ru And https://lk2012.budget.gov.ru
    • Firefox: add the JinnSignExtension.xpi extension and disable the old proxy setting in the network settings (set to "No proxy")
    • Chrome: add the JinnSignExtension extension (drag the folder with the extension into the extension installation window)
    Lyrics. You also need to disable Proxy completely in Internet Explorer:


    NEXT something that was not in the instructions.

    Creating shortcuts on the desktop for both options (GOST-2001 and GOST-2012) by writing the following lines in the objects:

    • "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" http://lk.budget.gov.ru/udu-webcenter
    • "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" http://lk2012.budget.gov.ru/udu-webcenter
    And just in case, in the properties we provide for launch as Administrator:


    This is necessary so that the browser does not switch to the HTTPS protocol while working.

    Setting up Anti-Virus. The network recommends disabling your antivirus completely. Great joke, especially on a money management computer. I suggest settings for Kaspersky Endpoint Security 10. You need to create similar rules on other antiviruses.

    First, disable traffic checking:


    Then we add both versions (x86 and x64) of Internet Explorer to application control exceptions:


    Of course, this is not right, but it is the least evil of all possible.

    You will have to convert the keys. Download Private key converter and there is a file in the archive Readme.doc with installation instructions. For conversion, you don’t need an additional flash drive, we do everything on the same one, files with the new key format will just be added. The medium will become universal. Both new and old keys are converted without problems.

    Change user has become much easier. Now you don’t need to restart the service, just change the certificate in the “Default user certificate” line in the Continent TLS settings.

    Good luck in your difficult struggle with federal portals!

    A new series of exciting adventures with your favorite EDMS budget.gov.ru. Error: validation failed or not avaliable yet. When signing a document, when selecting a signature, signatures are not visible in TLS Continent or Jinn-Client. But they are in Windows certificates and when you select them, the electronic system shows you hieroglyphs and laughs in your face, and the jinn client goes into an endless loop when signing.

    It doesn’t see it on the flash drive at all.
    Jinn-Client writes nasty things about you in hieroglyphs.

    Did you think your problems were finally over? And they have just begun. You have switched to the TLS and CryptoPro continent and go to your personal account at lk2012.budget.gov.ru.


    Let's start with - validation failed or not avaliable yet.

    The error is quite simple and does not always happen; it concerns a gadget called eXtended Container. It apparently comes bundled with Continent TLS client 2.0.14, but not in the form expected by Jinn-Client. We go to install and remove programs, find eXtanded Container 1.0.2.2 or similar. We install eXtanded Container 1.0.2.2 from the set of the Client Gene that you have, the key should also be there.

    If you don't have a key, this one might work. Click

    license key E6FV-00BC-CLDE-00BC-0A49-0000-0009

    There will be something like XC in programs and components. Then the validation failed or not avaliable yet error will probably disappear.

    Jinn-Client shows hieroglyphs when signing and whether or not the signatures hang in the list on the flash drive.

    This problem only affects signatures according to GOST 2012 and occurs in lk2012.budget.gov.ru. As far as I understand, this is due to the fact that the Treasury issued signatures according to GOST 2012, but not exactly the same. Perhaps next time the problem will not appear.

    By the way, do you know where to look for what GOST your signature has?

    This is what a signature from GOST 2012 looks like, obviously for 2001 in this section there will be GOST 2001

    But now we need to do something. We are determined to download the converter for signatures, there are instructions there. If we don’t trust me, go to the site, read it, download it. There is no need to install anything. Unpack the archive and run the .exe file. If signatures in Crypto Pro are set correctly, in the window that appears there will be a choice from all the signatures with notes of which state (if you have problems with CryptoPRO, I recommend it).

    It’s important that during conversion you will be asked to provide a password even if you didn’t have one. You can’t refuse, even a gap will do. Click next and select which flash drive to bury the signature on. Two files will appear named TE.cer and TEcont.p15. You cannot rename them and, as a result, you cannot put two signatures on one flash drive. If anyone knows how to do this, I would be grateful for your answer in the comments.

    Well, when signing the document, do not forget to set your password in the Jinn Client field - Crypto container password. I’m not sure about the “remember” checkbox, because God knows where to undo it later if anything happens.

    Here they are, below.

    Actually, that's all, at this point Jinn Client should stop showing you hieroglyphs. We enjoy life and wait for new setups from Major Payne.

    What is “Electronic Budget” and how is it related to national projects

    The Electronic Budget system is a unified system for managing state and municipal finances, operated by the Ministry of Finance. In this system, all participants in the budget process (more than 10 thousand organizations) work on forming the country’s budget, fulfilling government tasks, estimates, etc. All agreements for the provision of subsidies are concluded through the “Electronic Budget”.

    A separate subsystem has been created in the “Electronic Budget” for managing national projects implemented in accordance with the May presidential decree until 2024. The cost of implementing all national projects is estimated at 25.7 trillion rubles. from 2019 to 2024 (.pdf). Of these, 13.2 trillion will be borne by the federal budget, for 4.9 trillion rubles. Regional authorities will be responsible. At the same time, regional powers will mainly be provided with funding from the federal budget (about 95%).

    Officials complain about freezing and crashes

    For each national project, federal and regional officials must enter from several hundred to several thousand indicators into the system, a federal official explains to RBC. “Editing one checkpoint can take up to half an hour - the system responds slowly, freezes, and throws an error,” he said.

    “It takes on average seven to ten clicks to edit one control point. Thus, the average editing time for one control point can range from several minutes to half an hour. If it is necessary to adjust the federal project, the technical process may require on average about 54 man-hours,” the official described the process of working in the system.

    Adjusting 350-400 control points of one federal project may require the work of three specialists over several days, a federal official gave an example. According to him, “the system is especially slow in the middle of the working day: a response to one click can take up to fifteen minutes.”

    Regional officials are also recording technical glitches. “There are indeed technical glitches in the system. We encounter them in our work and are in constant contact with the Federal Treasury on issues of eliminating them,” acting acting director told RBC. Minister of Finance of the Chelyabinsk Region Andrey Pshenitsyn. “Starting this year, information on financing national projects began to pass through it [the system]. Therefore, of course, it requires constant adjustment,” he added. According to Pshenitsyn, problems arise with access to the system, user registration, information entry, and the correctness of its processing.

    “Often a long wait for a system response ends in an error, after which in most cases it is necessary to re-login and start a new session,” agrees the federal official.

    The press service of the Ministry of Labor confirmed to RBC the information about the failures, noting that they did not affect the work of the department, and the technical support service promptly processed messages about failures.

    The press service of the Ministry of Telecom and Mass Communications reported to RBC that ministry employees regularly encounter various problems when working with the Electronic Budget. “New types of errors arise from time to time. All this leads to forced downtime and loss of time for employees, which they could spend much more efficiently. But it should be noted that the system’s technical support began to help more willingly and faster than before,” the Ministry of Telecom and Mass Communications reported.

    The Ministry of Finance of Tatarstan, Bashkortostan and the Republic of Crimea reported that they did not encounter any failures in the system. When preparing the material, RBC sent inquiries to the press services of the ministries of finance of the Moscow, Sverdlovsk, Leningrad, Novosibirsk regions, as well as to the ministries of finance of the Khabarovsk Territory and the Republic of Mari El. RBC also sent requests to all ministries involved in the implementation of national projects.

    The Ministry of Finance refers to the lack of experience among users

    The Ministry of Finance records all errors that occur during the operation of the Electronic Budget subsystem, the department told RBC. “Given that the system is less than six months old, and more than 12 thousand users work online in it, errors happen, this is inevitable,” the Ministry of Finance noted, adding that problems on average are corrected in no more than 18 hours.

    An information system always requires a lot of work at the initial stage of data generation, the ministry emphasized. But the vast majority of requests are requests for consultation from users who are encountering the operation of a system of this class for the first time (electronic document management, a single cloud, many controls and reference books built into the system), which in itself is perceived as a difficulty in working, the Ministry of Finance believes. “Errors in the operation of the system make up a small proportion,” the department says.

    “For more than six years of operation of the Electronic Budget system, there has not been a single case of failure to meet deadlines or slow down the process of budget formation or execution,” the Ministry of Finance recalled. To improve the operation of the system, the Ministry of Finance regularly carries out work to optimize the program code, load testing, and balances the load on the servers.

    The Rostec structure was responsible for the development of the system.

    The contract for the development of the system software was concluded with JSC State Scientific Innovation Implementation Center (GNIVC), the Ministry of Finance told RBC. The company was also developing an IT system for the Federal Tax Service. The contract price was 299.7 million rubles, the deadline for completing work under the contract was December 10, 2019. “Payment is made in stages in accordance with the terms of the contract as delivery progresses,” the department added.

    The subcontractor of GNIVC is BARS Group, a subsidiary of Rostec Group of Companies. It is she who is developing the “Electronic Budget” subsystem to monitor the implementation of national projects, as follows from the company’s press release.

    A representative of BARS Group declined to comment. An RBC source close to the company claims that the system works without failures. “The introduction of any new system is accompanied by questions and the need to advise consumers of this system. The company receives requests for technical support, but they are resolved routinely,” says RBC’s interlocutor.